The Debate continues…

Clearly too few men in America are well enough exposed to literature in their formative years to appreciate the completely different experience of reading Hawthorne, Hemingway, Crane, Steinbeck, Rand, Vonnegut, Robbins and other actual Writers and to recognize those living today among the racks and racks of Grishams, La Carres, and the 300-page feature news articles on the non-fiction tables at the front of Borders.  (And there is some question in my mind as to what really makes these writer perspectives “non” fiction.)  I look forward to finding some essay that will impress the men of letters who comprise our club and need only a fresh exposure to remind them about the art of writing that inspired or cultivated some of the great aspects of the nation, including the creativity of its barons as well as the constructive dissent of its patriots.

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5 Responses to “The Debate continues…”


  1. 1 Dave K. May 10, 2007 at 11:11 am

    Bill, I’m still very open to an essay that will “pull me back from the dark side”… let’s see that up on here too!

  2. 2 Matt H. May 10, 2007 at 11:36 am

    Does that mean that I will now have to recognize understand sarcasm, innuendo, and plot lines? Hmmmm… scary stuff!

  3. 3 Steve M. May 10, 2007 at 3:34 pm

    and kind of in response to Ami’s post

    yet all of the names Bill listed above happen to be…men! how did men get to be such great writers of fiction? especially if they never read it?

    (of course, i don’t mean to exclude the prominent women writers)

    greetings, pugilists!

  4. 4 bobbyjones July 23, 2007 at 9:59 am

    “Fiction is far too obviously made up”

    This debate is further illucidated by a 2004 article by Jonathan Heawood in the Guardian about the underserved male audience for fiction.
    http://books.guardian.co.uk/departments/generalfiction/story/0,6000,1233121,00.html

    According to new research commissioned by Penguin Books, men who are seen reading a book are more attractive to the opposite sex.

    Non-Metrosexual Straight Male

    Kyle Smith confirmed this when he said that he set out ‘to speak up for that dwindling minority: the non-metrosexual straight male’. But non-metrosexual straight males are the last people to buy books about the search for Miss, or Mrs, or Mr Right. Non-metrosexual straight males are mostly interested in Mrs Right Here, although sometimes they’ll buy a magazine to have a look at Mrs Over There.
    Tim Lott, author of The Love Secrets of Don Juan, agrees that there’s a practical problem involved: ‘There’s something about the sheer inefficiency of reading. It’s something to do with men’s literal minds; they want to get to the point. Books are like the smell of coffee, they often promise a great deal more than they deliver.’ Lott himself has ‘dozens’ of unread books lying about. ‘If something hasn’t grabbed me after 100 pages I’m done with it.’ He believes that women are more patient, more respectful of detail, whereas men want things to keep moving. ‘Why should I plough through a thousand pages to find one or two very small truths?’ he demands.
    He continues: ‘men are clearly not as fascinated by themselves as women are by themselves’. Moreover, he says: ‘Men are naturally less introverted, less reflective, as a group, than women.’

    Also, I came across some good man laws that should be added to the Fight Club by-laws:
     Man shall never find himself more comfortable in a shopping mall than a forest.
     If you lick an object, it is henceforth your property until another man claims it by doing the same thing.
     Thou shall always have beer when having guests over.


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